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Author Topic: 048 McDonald v Chicago - Colleen Lawson & Kathy Jackson  (Read 497 times)
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« on: March 28, 2010, 10:58:15 PM »

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We bring you two strong, intelligent women who are both very involved in the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

First is Kathy Jackson, who you have heard on our Podcast before, this time we present a recording of a talk about situational awareness that she gave during a class at the Firearms Academy of Seattle Last Summer.

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Next we talk to Colleen Lawson, who is one of the plaintiffs in the McDonald v Chicago case that was presented before the Supreme Court. For more commentary on the case visit Mas’ blog at Backwoods Home Magazine

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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 12:10:03 PM »

Gail, once again the "girls" doing impressive teaching. Kathy Jackson's account of the Wally World Non-Event was a great way to drive the point of TRUST YOUR GUT home.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2010, 07:44:39 PM »

I had a similar incident last September while walking to dinner in the downtown area of the midsized city my wife and I live in on a Sunday afternoon.

As we were walking past a large strip mall which was to our right, I noticed a large male, probably in his early to mid-forties, riding a bicycle around in the parking lot. I didn't think much of it until I glanced back his direction and noticed he had stopped behind some small evergreens in the back of the drive-through of a bank. He was just standing there, now off of his bicycle, and watching us from about seventy five yards away. I didn't like it and was concerned enough at that point that I made certain that I kept track of where he was. I also continued to scan everything else around me in case he was a threat and wasn't alone.

Before I go any further let me explain the physical dissimilarities betwen us. This was a big guy. I would guess that he was 6'3" 270+ pounds. I'm 5'7" 200 pounds. My wife is a very tiny 4'7" 90 pounds.

As we passed the bank, my wife and I crossed a side street and traveled the sidewalk in front of a commercial building. Keeping track of my surroundings, I glanced to my right and there he was,slowly and casually approaching us on his bike from 3 o'clock. I looked at him and he turned a lazy circle and went the other way.

When we had passed that property and onto that of a car wash, I saw him ride his bike, about 80 yards away, onto the back of the car wash's property. I waited several seconds then glanced his way. Bicycle ace was now about fifty yards out and approaching us from about 4:30. At this point I had his number and was really getting tired of this bozo. I was carrying a 4" 586, IWB strong side, a 2 1/4" Taurus 605, weakside front pocket and a NAA Black Widow, strongside front pocket. This was clearly a case for pocket draw. The big gun might be too slow and drawing a gun could get my butt roasted for brandishing. I dropped my hands in my front pockets, ready to draw the Taurus .357 snub (and yes, surprise, surprise, it was loaded with  125 gr. Remington SJHPs) then I turned my head to the right and glared at the would be perp, who was now about 12 yards away. If looks could kill, this one would have done it.

"I'm going this way!" he blurted out and quickly turned his bike to the right and in seconds disappeared behind a medical practice.

The more I think about it, I've become convinced that we were about to get mugged (I think Kathy was too) I seriously think that he thought that his size would win the fight against the "little guy". My hunch is that he was a capable fighter and a professional criminal. I don't walk like a victim, but I really think that he thought his nonchalant manner (don't expect a mugger to pop our, hiss, wear a cape and look like Dracula), size, experience, and the violence of his attack would prove decisive. In the end, my mindset and tactics checked his advance.

When my hands dropped into my pockets and He saw "that look", he knew the gig was up. Street people know what those hands disappearing in the pockets are aboout to do!!!!!A hand in a pocket might have reinforced what Kathy did, but Im thinking her demeamor showed those clowns the writing on the wall. Kathy is on my short list of people I wouldn't want to tangle with.

As for Colleen, what a sweet lovely woman and a great American. I enjoyed her so much. My highest regards go out to her and her fellow McDonald plaintiffs. I invite her to join us here on the forum.
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2010, 12:19:03 PM »

Gail,

When my husband listened to this (he hadn't heard the original presentation), he said I did a poor job of articulating what my face looked like when I stood up and looked at the guys. I said, "I didn't see my face, so how would I --? Anyway, all I did was look at them."

My husband rolled his eyes. "What were you thinking when you looked at 'em?"

I said, "Um. You know. I was annoyed, and thinking about backstops."

He said, "And you don't think that showed on your face?"

Heh.

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2010, 01:01:29 PM »

"... and thinking about backstops."  Good one, Kathy.   Grin   Keep up the good work!

I sure miss my visits with ya'll in WA.

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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2010, 04:26:51 PM »

Exactly Kathy! I'm thinking we both must have had about the same look. The goon coming toward me was so big he was going to be the backstop. My encounter was broad daylight and I wasn't going to miss. The cat was a big, fat, easy target.

I'm thankful that both of us negotiated our potentially deadly encounters with the best possible outcome.
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