LFI vs MAG

[viii_ball]

I srated looking for an LFI course to take in 2010 and was surprised to see that Mas Ayoob has left LFI and started a new organization called Massad Ayoob Group.  Can anyone (Mas?) chime in here as to what has occurred and how the MAG courses relate to the LFI courses.

[Eric R Shelton]

Did you read what's posted on the front page of massaayoobgroup.com?

"For almost 30 years, there was only one training center where private citizens could get the same level of training as police academies or law schools – or higher – in what the criminal justice system calls “judicious use of deadly force”: the Lethal Force Institute, established and led by Massad Ayoob.

Now, there are two such sources.

Massad has left Lethal Force Institute, Inc. after 28 years as its director, and is now teaching through MAG, or Massad Ayoob Group.

Says Ayoob, “The separation was based strictly on differing business philosophies between myself and the other major partner in LFI. I expect LFI to continue the proven curriculum that was developed over 28 years, and with many certified instructors I’ve personally trained, I expect Lethal Force Institute to continue to provide top-quality professional training around the country.”

Massad will now be devoting more time to teaching attorneys how to defend justifiable homicide cases with CLE (Continuing Legal Education) programs run throughout the country under the auspices of state bar associations, in conjunction with ACLDN, the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network , and to train police instructors at selected law enforcement training academies around the country. He will continue to provide cutting-edge training for armed private citizens, through MAG."

[Matt G]

Did you read what's posted on the front page of massaayoobgroup.com?

"For almost 30 years, there was only one training center where private citizens could get the same level of training as police academies or law schools – or higher – in what the criminal justice system calls “judicious use of deadly force”: the Lethal Force Institute, established and led by Massad Ayoob.

Now, there are two such sources.

Massad has left Lethal Force Institute, Inc. after 28 years as its director, and is now teaching through MAG, or Massad Ayoob Group.

Says Ayoob, “The separation was based strictly on differing business philosophies between myself and the other major partner in LFI. I expect LFI to continue the proven curriculum that was developed over 28 years, and with many certified instructors I’ve personally trained, I expect Lethal Force Institute to continue to provide top-quality professional training around the country.”

Massad will now be devoting more time to teaching attorneys how to defend justifiable homicide cases with CLE (Continuing Legal Education) programs run throughout the country under the auspices of state bar associations, in conjunction with ACLDN, the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network , and to train police instructors at selected law enforcement training academies around the country. He will continue to provide cutting-edge training for armed private citizens, through MAG."

Hey Eric, isnt that what is posted on the front page of the MAG website?

Matt G

[Eric R Shelton]

LOL!

[Anthony]

Hello Everyone,

I just heard about this while listening to the Gun Dudes latest podcast.  At first I thought it was a joke, but a quick search on Google sobered me up.

I took LFI-I from Mas a few years ago and swore I would finish LFI-II through LFI-IV over the next few years.  It is my sincere hope that the new MAG classes will offer similar curriculum from Mas.

Is Rick Devoid still on staff as a gunsmith?

Looking forward to Mas' input on the classes and Rick.

- Anthony

[Steve]

Brother Rick is still going strong and can be reached at this site:

http://www.tarnhelm.com/

I'll let Mas answer your questions about the MAG classes.  I don't think you'll be disappointed. 

Steve

[red headed stranger]

I signed up for the MAG class in AZ in May.  I'm looking forward to it!