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« on: January 31, 2010, 11:46:30 PM »

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http://proarmspodcast.com/2010/01/31/043-the-2010-shot-show-episode/

It's been a long weekend, Appleseed kicked my patootie so this is all I have to say.

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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2010, 01:41:58 AM »

Great show!

BTW Gail, you don't think some women won't buy a pink gun as a "barbeque gun"?  Smiley

I've always thought that the pink gun thing could work two different ways.  One way would be that the bad guy might not take a pink gun seriously and make it more likely that the operator would have to shoot.  The other way is, just imagine the ribbing the bad guy would get in prison if he was shot by a lady with a pink gun.  Talk about deterrence!
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2010, 03:00:02 AM »

Great episode,really the best coverage I heard from the show.Although I was a little upset to find out the SW625 is being improved.Figures,since I finally got mine.
  Sorry Gail,my wife kind of digs the pink guns.She just installed some pink Hogue bantams on her j frame.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 10:30:05 AM »

I understand there is a pink M&P for Savin' the Boobies. and I would should that one. Who says pink isn't a mans color?
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2010, 10:36:03 AM »

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It's been a long weekend, Appleseed kicked my patootie so this is all I have to say.

In what way Gail?  I'm going to the Appleseed training in a couple of weeks.  Got my 10/22 modded, printed the suggested equipment list, went over the course syllabus.   ...What else do I need to know? 

Great report on SHOT!

Thanx!
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 01:05:33 PM »

Great coverage of the shot show.

Glad to see one of my favorite pod cast shows back.  Grin


Thanks Gals and Guys

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2010, 01:32:13 PM »

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It's been a long weekend, Appleseed kicked my patootie so this is all I have to say.

In what way Gail?  I'm going to the Appleseed training in a couple of weeks.  Got my 10/22 modded, printed the suggested equipment list, went over the course syllabus.   ...What else do I need to know? 

Great report on SHOT!

Thanx!


Appleseed was great!! But after two days of stand up, sit down, go prone, now do it again in the cold and rainy weather, my "more mature" body was hurting all over coupled with not getting enough sleep.

Would I do it again? In a New York minute!

Make sure you bring some kind of shooting mat and something for your elbows. Some people used elbow pads but I used my car blanket, all folded up and that worked great. Make sure you bring some kind of OTC pain reliever.

Bring two of everything that you might need, including a back-up rifle if possible. Bring all the tools you might need: screwdrivers, Allan wrenches etc. We brought 4 rifles and really needed three of them. Some of the problems we encountered: my optical sight came loose and fell off, fixed that, then later the battery went dead, so I switched to a scoped rifle, to save time (I changed to battery later that night). Mas' scope proceeded to walk off the rail of his rifle.

I had problems with magazines sticking in the gun and not going in, we finally isolated it to one magazine that was slightly different so we took it out use. Also use only Ruger magazines, however the magazine that didn't fit was factory and I had one that didn't feed the cartridges up. All of my aftermarket magazines failed miserably, and were from 3 or 4 different companies.

I hope this helps and I know you will have a lot of fun.

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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2010, 01:39:44 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2010, 02:34:21 PM »

Podcast

It's been a long weekend, Appleseed kicked my patootie so this is all I have to say.

In what way Gail?  I'm going to the Appleseed training in a couple of weeks.  Got my 10/22 modded, printed the suggested equipment list, went over the course syllabus.   ...What else do I need to know? 

Great report on SHOT!

Thanx!


Appleseed was great!! But after two days of stand up, sit down, go prone, now do it again in the cold and rainy weather, my "more mature" body was hurting all over coupled with not getting enough sleep.

Would I do it again? In a New York minute!

Make sure you bring some kind of shooting mat and something for your elbows. Some people used elbow pads but I used my car blanket, all folded up and that worked great. Make sure you bring some kind of OTC pain reliever.

Bring two of everything that you might need, including a back-up rifle if possible. Bring all the tools you might need: screwdrivers, Allan wrenches etc. We brought 4 rifles and really needed three of them. Some of the problems we encountered: my optical sight came loose and fell off, fixed that, then later the battery went dead, so I switched to a scoped rifle, to save time (I changed to battery later that night). Mas' scope proceeded to walk off the rail of his rifle.

I had problems with magazines sticking in the gun and not going in, we finally isolated it to one magazine that was slightly different so we took it out use. Also use only Ruger magazines, however the magazine that didn't fit was factory and I had one that didn't feed the cartridges up. All of my aftermarket magazines failed miserably, and were from 3 or 4 different companies.

I hope this helps and I know you will have a lot of fun.

Gail


More Mture?? your what 20? Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2010, 01:03:23 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2010, 03:04:51 PM »

Most guys i know got their wife's and girlfriend's into shooting with pink guns.  and pink accessories are very popular and are always happily received.

Not to mention its also a very popular niche for fathers getting their young daughters into shooting as well.

If they made a "Blue" gun i wouldn't be mad thinking they are just trying to market to boy's and the only ones who buy blue guns would be BOYS...

and geesh... if you guys want to hook up some other people with those passes for next year, i'll gladly walk all around this horrible place and get to touch and see all the new stuff coming out that the general public can't.

now don't take this the wrong way but it seems that some have forgotten how lucky they are getting to attend events like this.  I would be excited as could be to attend.

this episode just kinda chapped me a little.

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2010, 06:05:37 PM »

Didn't mean to chap ya, King. A podcast includes subjective as well as objective opinions. Part of our job, we figured, was letting folks who couldn't get there know what it was like. The complaints of the attendees were virtually unanimous...and many of the exhibitors complained louder.

Gail, like many women who've fought their way up in male-dominated endeavors and beaten the guys at their own game, doesn't like the marginalization of the "pink" thing.

Those who want pink guns, of course, can have at it.

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2010, 01:44:07 PM »

It is OK.... nobody in his right mind would openly disagree with Gail's fine points.

(Do notice I said "right mind" Grin )
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2010, 02:10:48 PM »

On this "pink" issue, what may be overlooked is that I guess you could say my XD with blue flames or one with a really cool zebra/camo look is my "pink".  A responsible woman, choosing to be armed is an empowerment that I endorse, so a woman with a pink gun is still empowered.  We have a local female sheriff's deputy near me that uses pink handcuffs.  I'm told the men being cuffed aren't too crazy about that.  Anyway, this is just my opinion.

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2010, 01:31:59 AM »

That sheriff in Arizona makes the men wear pink underwear.. in prison:)

Besides some of the Pink Guns are for a good cause. Like the Pink M&P that as I recall donates its proceeds to Breast cancer research. I'll probably get one and happily shoot a pink gun to save da boobies Smiley What red blooded American Man would say no to saving the boobies Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2010, 05:51:26 PM »

Getting shot with a pink gun would be embarrassing for a crook to live with, if he lived at all.  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2010, 06:42:21 PM »

Getting shot with a pink gun would be embarrassing for a crook to live with, if he lived at all.  Grin
"If you were a real man you wouldn't have gotten shot with this here pink gun ya pansy" lol
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2010, 05:13:29 PM »

Most guys i know got their wife's and girlfriend's into shooting with pink guns.  and pink accessories are very popular and are always happily received.

Not to mention its also a very popular niche for fathers getting their young daughters into shooting as well.

If they made a "Blue" gun i wouldn't be mad thinking they are just trying to market to boy's and the only ones who buy blue guns would be BOYS...

and geesh... if you guys want to hook up some other people with those passes for next year, i'll gladly walk all around this horrible place and get to touch and see all the new stuff coming out that the general public can't.

now don't take this the wrong way but it seems that some have forgotten how lucky they are getting to attend events like this.  I would be excited as could be to attend.

this episode just kinda chapped me a little.


  I like pink. But I also agree with Gail on the selling point. Also in the gun world we also as women hate to be stero typed. Just as you men hate to be stero typed by non gun people. Yes, sometimes the only reason someone will buy it is because its pink, but not all women. And it might not be the best gun for them. I do believe it has helped sell more guns to some women, hopefully the gun works when they need it. If it does getting someone into shooting or carrying one I am all for that.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2010, 11:40:38 AM »

Most guys i know got their wife's and girlfriend's into shooting with pink guns.  and pink accessories are very popular and are always happily received.

Not to mention its also a very popular niche for fathers getting their young daughters into shooting as well.

If they made a "Blue" gun i wouldn't be mad thinking they are just trying to market to boy's and the only ones who buy blue guns would be BOYS...

and geesh... if you guys want to hook up some other people with those passes for next year, i'll gladly walk all around this horrible place and get to touch and see all the new stuff coming out that the general public can't.

now don't take this the wrong way but it seems that some have forgotten how lucky they are getting to attend events like this.  I would be excited as could be to attend.

this episode just kinda chapped me a little.


  I like pink. But I also agree with Gail on the selling point. Also in the gun world we also as women hate to be stero typed. Just as you men hate to be stero typed by non gun people. Yes, sometimes the only reason someone will buy it is because its pink, but not all women. And it might not be the best gun for them. I do believe it has helped sell more guns to some women, hopefully the gun works when they need it. If it does getting someone into shooting or carrying one I am all for that.

And these stereotypical gun makers cover things in camofaluge to attract red necks.  They make guns in all black to attract the Mall Ninja/Urban Commando and stuff in stainless for people who like shiney things.

I just don't understand how someone could be upset that a company would market an item for a specific group...  And pink guns aren't just for girls, a friend of mine bought a pink hello kitty AR for laughs, heck Eric Shelton has a Purple AR and he's not a female (that we know of yet hehehehe).

marketing is marketing. You can't seriously be upset.  Pink guns got my fiancee into shooting, it has grown from there for her into several types of guns in all different colors.  If a gimmick gets good honest people into the sportand gets them protecting themselves and their loved ones, im all for it.

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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2010, 12:37:34 PM »

In a show of solidarity with my female team mates (Perk & Sarge... who you know better as Gail & Terri) I have contacted Ruger and asked them to build me a pink Ruger GP-100 for competition.... to replace my manly (but politically incorrect) blued gun. I'm not sure how that is going to work out. The guy was laughing so hard that I don't know if he properly recorded the exact specifications I wanted. But, I'll keep ya'll notified as to how that turns out.
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