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« on: February 25, 2010, 10:07:11 PM » |
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i got mine this week and have been home playing with it for a few days now.
in short. buy one. buy one now!
the long story...
this is a great modification to the AR15 platform. as you may know it is designed for right handed shooters to function both as a bolt hold open and bolt release that is actuated by the trigger finger. i was really worried anything in the trigger guard getting in the way of the trigger but it works well and does not get in the way. i index my trigger finger above the magazine release and find the BAD protrusion to be one more notch that my finger rides along on it's way to the trigger. even with heavy gloves on i have no problem with snagging or reaching the trigger. there is some fore and aft play to the BAD due to it being attached to the bolt release. but that is a bolt release fitment issue not the BAD and in any event does not harm use or functionality.
I have to say it's funny how when one begins to study the development of modern weapons and the various Katas of them one realizes there are a lot of weapon systems designed for left handed people. the BAD WORKS better left handed than right. i found my left trigger finger was easily able to actuate the bolt release and lock back functions. would i cut the horizontal bar off my BAD if i were left handed? maybe. but then again it just does not get in the way.
can you make your own? yea you can. but i got mine for $30.00 and don't think i could make one half as good for twice as much.
what would i change or make better? not much. it's well thought out and works well. maybe i would design it with some sort of a staked nut so i would not worry about it backing out.
the AR is a great platform. the BAD lever makes it better.
tks.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 10:42:37 PM » |
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I've wanted one for a while. I find it easier to operate the charging handle with my firing hand than my left. But reaching the bolt release is a PITA! Specially with an optic in the way.
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 10:42:37 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 11:00:34 PM » |
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I keep checking Brownell's and they are continually on backorder. Where did you pick yours up from?
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 11:16:43 PM » |
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I think G&R Tactical has 'em most of the time. Grim has one, and it's pretty awesome! The one thing that took me the most training to get past was hitting the bolt release after adding the Redi-Mag- it became a LOT more difficult to accomplish! I'm over that now, and can do it alright... But enough slower enough at first that any speed advantage of having the second magazine there was counter-acted. The BAD completely changes the game, and makes your reloads insane.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 11:20:19 PM » |
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Aimsurplus.com has em for 28.45$ right now.
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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2010, 12:22:47 PM » |
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The BAD lever is not as big a deal for us minority lefties(dexterity wise, not politically). Even the redimag has the stupid plastic extension that makes it easy for us to hit the release. I could however, go for a charging handle that actually hinges and latches on the right. I know stag makes the lefty uppers, but they still use the regular charging handles which hinge and catch on the left.  |
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2010, 01:39:55 PM » |
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2010, 08:48:26 PM » |
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Yeah, an ambi charging handle is the best you could do without the upper's notch being cut on the right-hand side. I haven't spent enough time with a left-hand Stag upper to remember that setup... Hmm...
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 10:39:07 PM » |
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I have one and would have to agree. They are pretty sweet!!!  |
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 11:02:30 PM » |
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Picked up BAD levers for myself and Ray yesterday. Loving it so far, but need to work with it more- with my gloves on I feel like I'm fumbling between the BAD and the mag release button. Will update soon...
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 01:33:35 PM » |
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Thanks for the suggestions guys, but I have tried the ambi handles(yes, multiple). They work as advertised, but I would rather have something that I can simply hit and pull straight back on the right side. All these ambi levers require a squeeze or opposing motion from the rear. I know, it's not a huge deal. Call me picky. I know I am. Anyways, a guy can dream right?
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 08:22:53 PM » |
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So you want something like on an M1 or SKS right?
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 08:22:53 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2010, 11:35:35 AM » |
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Come to think of it, yes. Maybe that's part of why I like the M1A so much.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2010, 11:36:06 AM » |
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I usually love Magpul stuff, and have quite a bit of it on my rifle.
The BAD is something I think I can live without however.
Can you hit the bolt release normally? I mean does it elimanate the option of running our AR the way we have for years? or does it just add another option?
Anyone follow what I am saying? I think its adds another option but I have never used one.
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2010, 02:47:56 PM » |
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I usually love Magpul stuff, and have quite a bit of it on my rifle.
The BAD is something I think I can live without however.
Can you hit the bolt release normally? I mean does it elimanate the option of running our AR the way we have for years? or does it just add another option?
Anyone follow what I am saying? I think its adds another option but I have never used one.
i don't have hardly any magpul stuff on my rifle. the MIAD grip is the only thing other than the bad. they just didn't sell me on their butt stocks, forward grips or any of the other stuff. the old CAR butt stock works just fine for me. the go to rifle has a M4 stock but that is because that is what came with the "kit. but to respond to your point The BAD does add another option and it enhances normal functioning. it covers the normal release button and makes it about 1.5 times larger and a bit higher so you can palm slap it easier. the normal bolt hold open button is not affected but right behind it is a large bar that is much easier to hit with the thumb if you are doing the finger thumb pinch on the front of your magwell while your right hand runs the charging handle. i guess it's all in how you want to run the gun. if you load left handed and bump the release with your left thumb and then slide that off hand forward it's so slick you really can't beat it by trying to run your bolt and seat the mag two handed. trying to do so may be slower than that smooth fluid motion. where it comes in handy is when you have a failure and need to lock the bolt open. on most jambs you just keep the rifle in your right or firing hand and run the the charging handle with your left hand and lock the bolt back with your right hand trigger finger. then pull the mag with your left hand and clear the rounds if they don't fall out. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2010, 02:47:00 PM » |
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ok you convinced me. I am going to try that little hokey loop around hotfix lookin BAD lever. Thanks!
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2010, 09:33:19 AM » |
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My only concern is that I learn to run the gun with a BAD lever and then I need to use an AR without one. Any thoughts on that?
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2010, 10:52:54 AM » |
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at that point It would be a "new" weapon system.
What if you were shooting your AR and ran out of ammo but you could pick up a FAL, AK or HK91? The controls are different but you could still run the gun. You may not know to toe heel the ak mag, but you could figure it out.
In that second or two it takes to realize the "gun in your hand" does not have a BAD lever you could Flub the problem But then you could flub it without the gun being different. That is why it's best to transition when you have a failure and are within pistol range.
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2011, 04:23:21 PM » |
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Being out of the Army now, I will not be going into battle with my AR therefore, like most all of the add on stuff, I just don't see the point. I learned how to run it with the standard release and never had a problem with it. I see no reason to fix what for me is not broken. KISS
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