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rickomatic
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« on: March 04, 2010, 12:00:25 PM »

Listened to episode # 84 yesterday about the AZ trip.
Are you guys gonna go into a little more detail about the AMD build? Did you use a pre made receiver or bend one? Did you have to do any tweaking once finished to get the function down good? Details details details. Those of us who've done this are always interested in how other guys builds went. Also, are you now "hooked" on building, or do you think it was a once in a lifetime thing you just wanted to experience? Thanks guys.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 06:47:43 PM »

I also hope to hear more about this.  I just got my first taste of the AK with my Saiga-12 and I think I'm hooked.  Time to build something in 7.62x39!
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 07:41:04 PM »

A few of us got together and built six Romanian AK-47's. Two were mine, one other guy built two and two guys each built one. We all used the pre-bent receivers. We figured whoever made them could could bend them a hell of a lot better than we could. Plus I didn't want a lop-sided AK. For both of mine I bought brand new trigger kits (hammer, trigger, sear, disconnector) for $27. These count towards your American made parts so that was an added bonus. When all was said and done and we took them out for a test fire mine worked flawlessly. The other guy that built two and did not buy a new trigger kit had trouble with both of his AK's. Now with a little rework he had them working. It didn't take long, I think it was just a little filing but still I prefer to not have any problems. So if I ever did it again I would get the new trigger kit in a heartbeat. For only $27 it was well worth it to me. Of the other two guys, I don't know if they had new kits or not but one had trouble and one didn't. All in all I don't think anything was major just a slight adjustment on each one. I ended up spending around $325 for each one. Not too bad considering they were going for $900 or more at the gun show after Obama was elected. Maybe I should have sold one then.

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 09:09:44 PM »

I'd be careful with not getting a new trigger set. Not so much for function sake, but those parts are usually a big part of the Sec 922r US parts compliance. If I remember right, I think they count for like 3 US parts. I'm not sure how you get to compliance without those.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 09:36:42 PM »

Yes that's a good reason to get those parts also. My trigger kits are Tapco. I'll have to read through the parts compliance again to be up on all the requirements.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 11:51:41 AM »

I've got the Tapcos on both of mine too. They are well made, and function well. They are not match triggers by any stretch, but then, neither is an AK. I've also got a Tapco folding stock set on one of mine. It works just fine. I always laugh at the "snobs" that talk down about Tapco. They are a good US company with good parts at a reasonable price. Besides...last order from them they threw in a free T-shirt!! 
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 07:04:40 PM »

I've got an AMD-65 and love it.  TGI build.  It's much more accurate that I expected it to be.  Lots of grins at the range when you put rounds downrange.  Big fireballs out the side of the muzzlebrake, and lots of noise.  What's not to like?

Here's my son pokin' holes in paper at 100 yds:


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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 12:41:27 PM »

After listening to the show, I looked up the site and have to admit I like the price on the kits, I wonder what is the availability of the cartridges, spare mags, etc.  Mainly cartridges and are they all lacquered steel or are any brass?  Can't shoot steel at many ranges.  The ballistics of the cartridge are appealing and the idea of the hollow space to promote tipping on impact but still seems like once you get over the initial price of the weapon that the AR value of availability is strong.

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 06:56:24 AM »

Yes that's a good reason to get those parts also. My trigger kits are Tapco. I'll have to read through the parts compliance again to be up on all the requirements.

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Yeah most definitely!  P22r only counts certain parts.  Basically if you have a muzzle device you need 6 U.S. parts (your receiver would be one as well).  Hopefully you have 2 more countable U.S. parts somewhere.    I would recommend a U.S. pistol grip, stock, handguard, or muzzle device.  Stay away from U.S. mags unless they are US Palm (even then it is debatable). Here's a calculator for 922r.

It is designed for Saigas but still works
http://jobson.us/922r/

Note that 922r applies when you go to the "evil assault weapons" configuration of a pistol grip AND/OR (by those who read the law strictly) when you insert a magazine over 10 rounds for a rifle or over 5 for a shotgun.


After listening to the show, I looked up the site and have to admit I like the price on the kits, I wonder what is the availability of the cartridges, spare mags, etc.  Mainly cartridges and are they all lacquered steel or are any brass?  Can't shoot steel at many ranges.  The ballistics of the cartridge are appealing and the idea of the hollow space to promote tipping on impact but still seems like once you get over the initial price of the weapon that the AR value of availability is strong.

tom

7.62x39 and mags is very plentiful.  5.45x39 in ammo and mags not as much but is cheap if you get surplus.  Not much any more is lacquered, it is mostly polymer coated.  AKs have no problem with steel cases.  Ranges that say no still case annoy me and I don't go to them with my AKs. 

The hollow space is common to 5.45x39, not so much to 7.62x39.  In fact older designed ammo (M43 cartridge) rarely tumbles. Newer modern FMJ and HP has an airspace, while the Wolf Military Classic HP ammo performs somewhat similar to M193 5.56mm in that it will fragment and/or expand under 100m.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2010, 08:16:27 PM »

Yes that's a good reason to get those parts also. My trigger kits are Tapco. I'll have to read through the parts compliance again to be up on all the requirements.

Aaron


Yeah most definitely!  P22r only counts certain parts.  Basically if you have a muzzle device you need 6 U.S. parts (your receiver would be one as well).  Hopefully you have 2 more countable U.S. parts somewhere.    I would recommend a U.S. pistol grip, stock, handguard, or muzzle device.  Stay away from U.S. mags unless they are US Palm (even then it is debatable). Here's a calculator for 922r.

It is designed for Saigas but still works
http://jobson.us/922r/

Note that 922r applies when you go to the "evil assault weapons" configuration of a pistol grip AND/OR (by those who read the law strictly) when you insert a magazine over 10 rounds for a rifle or over 5 for a shotgun.



Matt,

Thanks for the calculator. I still have some things I'd like to do to mine I just haven't got the parts yet. At least I'm legal.  Smiley

Aaron
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2010, 09:12:05 AM »

Hey guys, any updates on the AMD build?  Just curious.  I put another 100rds or so downrange from my AMD on Friday, and was just wondering where yours stood.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2010, 10:30:27 PM »

I guess after all that wonderful talk on the pod cast some folks dusted off their credit card and started to buy the kits.
Looking at NoDak Spud - they ran out of the almost no mods needed to work with receiver  - I think that was an NDS-65.
They did indicate they had another one that took a little bit more work to be used in an AMD-65 build.


I think some of the lower end "B" kits have sold out - but that might be only a temp thing.

Brad - having fun in Colorado
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