011 The Glock Pistol and Chris Edwards talks about GSSF

[Jkwas]

Hello,  I've just started listening to the podcasts and have a lot of catching up to do.  I listened to the Glock episode today and had to comment on the Glock lacking a type of manual safety (on/off switch).  I've always wanted to purchase a Glock, but my guns are used by all members of the family and right or wrong (there's probably a lesson in gun safety coming), I have been reluctant to get one for this only reason.  I understand that Glock doesn't need to add this as they can sell as many of the existing design as they can manufacture, but it sure would be nice if they would be more "market sensitive".    Just an observation.

[Matt G]

A silly question, but just what do you think a manual safety will accomplish that the action of the Glock will not?

[Jkwas]

A silly question, but just what do you think a manual safety will accomplish that the action of the Glock will not?

Disable the trigger.

[Gail]

Some people like manual safeties because:
1. If the drawstring of a windbreaker or something gets into the trigger guard during holstering (it's happened) there is a fail-safe there. Or if a finger gets there, which is more likely, as perfect as we all like to think we are. 

2. BIG reason is that if someone gets the gun away from you and tries to pull the trigger, them having to fumble for a safety buys you some time to rectify the situation.  I've watched Mas hand his Cominolli safety equipped Glock to GLOCK ARMORERS and watched them go nuts trying to make it shoot.

In polymer frame pistols, you have the Cominolli safety (Rick Devoid does it quickly and surely, AFAIK, www.tarnhelm.com) for the Glock.

And Springfield Armory offers their XD45s (.45 ACP only, sorry) with an ambi thumb safety on the frame that's as easy to operate as a 1911's.

And S&W offers their .45 ACP M&Ps with that option, and we are told are already producing them in the smaller calibers as an option.

And Ruger's SR9 has that option, though none of us at ProArms Podcast felt it was in the exact right place or was the exact right size to work as positively as the other polymer frame/striker fired pistols in this category.

Gail

[Kevin]

Love my ambi thumb safety on my M&P, except I have the same problem Eric has with his ambi safety, I keep brushing it off. Do they make a single side safety for the M&P or should I just grind it off with the dremel tool (just kidding about the "grind it off" part) ?

[Gail]

I think they are all Ambi.

Kevin, step away from that Dremel!!

Gail

[Kevin]

I never get to have any fun 

Roger had a safety put on his glock, didn't he? Or he bought it from someone who did. Sometimes that one extra step of safety is reassuring.

And the safety on my M&P works exactly like my 1911, meaning it is in the "exact right place", which I like.

And being that I use the M&P as my primary carry gun, I also like the extra time afforded me by someone having to figure out the safety if they did happen to get it away from me.
Read a study some muckity-muck gunwriter did quite a few years ago on just that subject, and if my memory serves me correctly, which it rarely does, it took the average person over a minute to figure out how to fire a semi-auto pistol with the safety on. I could really use that minute to my advantage. I can almost run 100 yards in that much time.

In summation, Her Royal Podcastiness was right on all points, as is usual.

[MasAyoob]

Actually, most of the times in those tests have run plus/minus seventeen seconds.

During which you can run a considerable distance, or do many threat-stopping (and possibly very unpleasant) things to the dirtbag who has gained momentary control of your firearm.

I do take your word, however, that it will take you a minute to move 100 yards...

We old people know about moving (we have to think about it and work at it a WHOLE lot more ) and now you understand why JB brought up the Golf Cart thing elsewhere.

Kev, merry Christmas -- and same to all on the forum this Christmas eve -- and we all look forward to shooting with you again first Saturday in Jan '09.

best,
Mas

[Kevin]

I told you my memory didn't serve me well most times. Still, 17 seconds is a considerable amount of time when the SHTF.

See ya' in Jan.

Why did I ever try to quote stats, knowing that you were out there...

Merry Christmas

Note to self: Get a golf cart.

[The Guinea]

I have the Glock podcast stored on my MP3 player. At work we are allowed to listen to MP3 players while we are out on the floor (warehouse) working. I listen to the Glock podcast about once a week. It just has alot of great insight and info on Glock firearms.

I have owned a couple of Glocks in the past, but the one I have now is by far the best I have ever shot/owned. A model 21SF, Glock rail with non-ambi magazine release. Meprolight night sights, extended slide stop, Wolff steel guide rod with Wolff stock weight (17lb) recoil spring. I lightly polished all the contact points and have an excellent trigger. Very crisp break and positive reset. I also have an M3 tac-light mounted on the frame rail.

Keep up the great work on your podcasts please.

The Guinea